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Pikku-Kallella oli ärrävika, ja hän oli isänsä kanssa kaksin kotona äidin ollessa matkoilla. Kun äiti palasi, hän kysyi, kuinka Kalle ja isä olivat pärjänneet. Kalle vastasi: "Hyvinhän täällä on mennyt, mutta isällä on ollut paljon huolia."

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Re: George Soros
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 09:24:23 am »
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Re: George Soros
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2009, 03:57:40 am »
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Re: George Soros
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2010, 08:09:53 am »
"George Soros on ollut aina hyvä haistelemaan maailman tuulia ja on häskistikin hyväksikäyttänyt tilaisuudet joita tyhmät politikot ovat suoneet (meillä mauno koivisto).
Sorokselta kerran kysyttiin että miten alkoi hänen uransa joka johti multimiljonääriksi. Hieman liikuttuneena hän kertoi syntyneensä keskiluokkaiseen perheeseen Budapestissa ja kasvoi normaalin lapsuuden, kunnes päästiin syksyyn 1939. Sota euroopassa alkoi ja ennen joulua tuli uutinen että ryssä oli hyökännyt Suomeen. Soroksen isä oli pitänyt tätä erittäin vakavana asiana ja siitä oli keskusteltu kotona. George-poika oli vähän aiemmin mennyt ensimmäiseen työhönsä (muistaakseni lehdenjakajaksi)ja kun hän sai ensimmäisen palkan, vei sen suoraan pankkiin ja käski panna rahat SUOMEN-avustustilille.

Tiedä sitten minne nekin rahat päätyivät, mutta jotain siunausta niillä on ollut. Myöhemmin hän avusti myös merkittävästi kaikkea kommunismin vastaistä työtä."

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George Soros
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2010, 03:56:33 am »
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Re: George Soros
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2010, 13:23:14 pm »
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Re: George Soros
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2010, 14:14:07 pm »
SOROS & THE ROTHSCHILD CONNECTION

SOROS BUILT HIS ROTHSCHILD ALLIANCE through these Jews:

Richard Katz: Former head of Rothschild Italia and an officer of NM Rothschild & Sons in London. Katz is now a member of Soros’ Quantum Fund committee.

Nils Taube: Partner of the Rothschild investment group St James Place Capital which now belongs to Nathaniel Rothschild, son and heir of Jacob Rothschild. Taube is also a member of Soros’ “Quantum Fund.”

Michael Cicurel: Michael Cicurel. He is the manager of Rothschild’s Societe Generale Bank & has a seat on the board of Rothschild & Cie Banque.

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Re: George Soros
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 14:17:01 pm »
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Onhan Soros huippuälykäs, mutta hänen toimensa vahingoittavat yleensä tavallisia ihmisiä. Kylläkään hän ei pääsisi toimimaan, mikäli tavalliset ihmiset olisivat älykkäämpiä ja valitsisivat valistuneempia ja korruptoitumattomampia poliitikkoja.

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Re: George Soros
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2010, 14:31:25 pm »
Onhan Soros huippuälykäs, mutta hänen toimensa vahingoittavat yleensä tavallisia ihmisiä. Kylläkään hän ei pääsisi toimimaan, mikäli tavalliset ihmiset olisivat älykkäämpiä ja valitsisivat valistuneempia ja korruptoitumattomampia poliitikkoja.

Soros pääsee toimimaan, koska systeemissä, jossa Soros ei pääsisi toimimaan, ihmiset olisivat tasa-arvoisia ja rikkaiden asema heikkenisi.
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Re: George Soros
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 18:46:18 pm »
korruptoitumattomampia poliitikkoja.

Minkään systeemin ei mielestäni pidä perustua sille oletukselle, että korruptoitumattomia poliitikkoja olisi olemassa.
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Re: George Soros
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2010, 20:37:11 pm »
http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/97feb/capital/capital.htm

"Although I have made a fortune in the financial markets, I now fear that the untrammeled intensification of laissez-faire capitalism and the spread of market values into all areas of life is endangering our open and democratic society. The main enemy of the open society, I believe, is no longer the communist but the capitalist threat."

"Popper juxtaposed with these totalitarian ideologies another view of society, which recognizes that nobody has a monopoly on the truth; different people have different views and different interests, and there is a need for institutions that allow them to live together in peace."

"There is a realm where these conditions prevail: natural science. But in other areas of human endeavor the relationship between statements and facts is less clear-cut. In social and political affairs the participants' perceptions help to determine reality"

"POPPER showed that fascism and communism had much in common, even though one constituted the extreme right and the other the extreme left, because both relied on the power of the state to repress the freedom of the individual. I want to extend his argument. I contend that an open society may also be threatened from the opposite direction -- from excessive individualism. Too much competition and too little cooperation can cause intolerable inequities and instability. Insofar as there is a dominant belief in our society today, it is a belief in the magic of the marketplace. The doctrine of laissez-faire capitalism holds that the common good is best served by the uninhibited pursuit of self-interest. Unless it is tempered by the recognition of a common interest that ought to take precedence over particular interests, our present system -- which, however imperfect, qualifies as an open society -- is liable to break down.

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Re: George Soros
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2010, 20:37:32 pm »
" Yet laissez-faire ideology, I contend, is just as much a perversion of supposedly scientific verities as Marxism-Leninism is."

"The main scientific underpinning of the laissez-faire ideology is the theory that free and competitive markets bring supply and demand into equilibrium and thereby ensure the best allocation of resources. This is widely accepted as an eternal verity, and in a sense it is one. Economic theory is an axiomatic system: as long as the basic assumptions hold, the conclusions follow. But when we examine the assumptions closely, we find that they do not apply to the real world. As originally formulated, the theory of perfect competition -- of the natural equilibrium of supply and demand -- assumed perfect knowledge, homogeneous and easily divisible products, and a large enough number of market participants that no single participant could influence the market price. The assumption of perfect knowledge proved unsustainable, so it was replaced by an ingenious device. Supply and demand were taken as independently given. This condition was presented as a methodological requirement rather than an assumption. It was argued that economic theory studies the relationship between supply and demand; therefore it must take both of them as given.

As I have shown elsewhere, the condition that supply and demand are independently given cannot be reconciled with reality, at least as far as the financial markets are concerned -- and financial markets play a crucial role in the allocation of resources.  Buyers and sellers in financial markets seek to discount a future that depends on their own decisions. The shape of the supply and demand curves cannot be taken as given because both of them incorporate expectations about events that are shaped by those expectations."
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Re: George Soros
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2010, 20:44:48 pm »
"In the absence of equilibrium, the contention that free markets lead to the optimum allocation of resources loses its justification. The supposedly scientific theory that has been used to validate it turns out to be an axiomatic structure whose conclusions are contained in its assumptions and are not necessarily supported by the empirical evidence. The resemblance to Marxism, which also claimed scientific status for its tenets, is too close for comfort."'

"I do not mean to imply that economic theory has deliberately distorted reality for political purposes. But in trying to imitate the accomplishments (and win for itself the prestige) of natural science, economic theory attempted the impossible."

"What allows economic theory to be converted into an ideology hostile to the open society is the assumption of perfect knowledge -- at first openly stated and then disguised in the form of a methodological device. There is a powerful case for the market mechanism, but it is not that markets are perfect; it is that in a world dominated by imperfect understanding, markets provide an efficient feedback mechanism for evaluating the results of one's decisions and correcting mistakes."
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Re: George Soros
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2010, 16:12:40 pm »
"SOCIAL DARWINISM

BY taking the conditions of supply and demand as given and declaring government intervention the ultimate evil, laissez-faire ideology has effectively banished income or wealth redistribution. I can agree that all attempts at redistribution interfere with the efficiency of the market, but it does not follow that no attempt should be made. The laissez-faire argument relies on the same tacit appeal to perfection as does communism. It claims that if redistribution causes inefficiencies and distortions, the problems can be solved by eliminating redistribution -- just as the Communists claimed that the duplication involved in competition is wasteful, and therefore we should have a centrally planned economy. But perfection is unattainable. Wealth does accumulate in the hands of its owners, and if there is no mechanism for redistribution, the inequities can become intolerable. "Money is like muck, not good except it be spread." Francis Bacon was a profound economist.

The laissez-faire argument against income redistribution invokes the doctrine of the survival of the fittest. The argument is undercut by the fact that wealth is passed on by inheritance, and the second generation is rarely as fit as the first.

In any case, there is something wrong with making the survival of the fittest a guiding principle of civilized society. This social Darwinism is based on an outmoded theory of evolution, just as the equilibrium theory in economics is taking its cue from Newtonian physics. The principle that guides the evolution of species is mutation, and mutation works in a much more sophisticated way. Species and their environment are interactive, and one species serves as part of the environment for the others. There is a feedback mechanism similar to reflexivity in history, with the difference being that in history the mechanism is driven not by mutation but by misconceptions. I mention this because social Darwinism is one of the misconceptions driving human affairs today. The main point I want to make is that cooperation is as much a part of the system as competition, and the slogan "survival of the fittest" distorts this fact."

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Re: George Soros
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2010, 15:00:13 pm »
Instability extends well beyond financial markets: it affects the values that guide people in their actions. Economic theory takes values as given. At the time economic theory was born, in the age of Adam Smith, David Ricardo, and Alfred Marshall, this was a reasonable assumption, because people did, in fact, have firmly established values. Adam Smith himself combined a moral philosophy with his economic theory. Beneath the individual preferences that found expression in market behavior, people were guided by a set of moral principles that found expression in behavior outside the scope of the market mechanism. Deeply rooted in tradition, religion, and culture, these principles were not necessarily rational in the sense of representing conscious choices among available alternatives. Indeed, they often could not hold their own when alternatives became available. Market values served to undermine traditional values.

There has been an ongoing conflict between market values and other, more traditional value systems, which has aroused strong passions and antagonisms. As the market mechanism has extended its sway, the fiction that people act on the basis of a given set of nonmarket values has become progressively more difficult to maintain. Advertising, marketing, even packaging, aim at shaping people's preferences rather than, as laissez-faire theory holds, merely responding to them. Unsure of what they stand for, people increasingly rely on money as the criterion of value. What is more expensive is considered better. The value of a work of art can be judged by the price it fetches. People deserve respect and admiration because they are rich. What used to be a medium of exchange has usurped the place of fundamental values, reversing the relationship postulated by economic theory. What used to be professions have turned into businesses. The cult of success has replaced a belief in principles. Society has lost its anchor.

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